Here ya go, Coder

[photoshawwwp]

I don't know if you've read this, but here ya go:

chinlesswonder.net/hondas.html

give me a real reason why you hate Hondas.

[sweet69cutlass]

There's plenty of real reasons why i hate worthless japenese Honda's; i've said them all before and obviously you just don't understand them

[photoshawwwp]

All you've said is that they're underpowered. That's not good enough for me to believe you. If you want to proove a point, why don't you actually try to do it.

[sweet69cutlass]

OK let me see:
1. They're small
2. They're cheaply made
3. They're ugly
4. They're not safe in an accident due to their smal size(with another larger vehicle that is, otherwise they are safe enough)
5. They are not fun to drive(only partly because they are underpowered)
6. they are not at all durable, nor do they last long, you see plenty of 20 year old Oldsmobiles but very few 20 year old hondas
7.I don't like them and I don't have too, if i want to hate them its my right to do it, if it annoys you ignore it

[photoshawwwp]

1) theyre not all small. an accord isn't small.
3) the newer ones arent ugly
5) theres no differnce in driving this car than any other
6) they last a long time, as do all foreign cars, you don't see very many american cars with over 200,000 miles

[sweet69cutlass]

1. the Accord is actually pretty small, considering it is their biggest car. If you look it is actually listed as a mid-size sedan. Not large, Mid-size. And, while for all intents and purposes it is big enough to transport 4 people, bigger cars do it much more comfortably. For instance, my mom's car, a 2004 Chrysler Concord, is able to comfortably fit 3 people in the back seat, including me and my brother, no accord could do that.
2. The newer ones aren't really ugly, but they are very plain and boring, if the car does not look cool or exciting, then it is ugly. The ONE exception to this is the honda S2000, which looks pretty cool.
3. There is a huge difference in driving a honda and another car. all cars feel and drive differently and only someone who is completely out of tune with their vehicle would not notice. I gurentee that if you drive my car and civic back to back you would imediately notice a huge difference in power, excelleration, and size. Furthermore the difference between my car and our cutlass is almost frieghtening, I would hate to go from a civic to that car.
4. The longevity of most american cars is simply outstanding when compared to foriegn cars. In our immediate family, there is a 1950 REO Speedwagon that runs beautifully, a 1969 oldsmobile Cutlass Supreme convertible that runs better then many new cars, a 1950 International pickup that after sitting in a barn for 15 years started on the first try, and a 1950 Willy's Speedster that still runs. Plus my car and one of my dad's trucks has about 200,000 miles on it and the only time my car or the truck has failed to start is when i left the lights on overnight. On Dodge's diesel trucks the First major engine maintenence is schedualed for 250,000 miles, the first

[photoshawwwp]

I would say that you've made some excellent points, and I have to say that Oldsmobile makes excellent cars. We used to have one, and it was the best car we ever had. You won't be happy to hear this, but the car I own is a 1993 Honda Accord. It's not the best looking thing in the world, but it has 161,000 miles on it and it runs perfectly. I haven't noticed anything that would qualify it as underpowered. It accelerates decently, and it handles high speeds excellently.

[sweet69cutlass]

I'm not saying that they don't have enough power to function, for the average person the power is certainly enough to get you from point A to point B, but its hardly entertaining, as for miles, any decently cared for car can go 200,000 miles

[Jimmy Q]

my grandma's '90 bonnneville has over 215k miles on it